If you’re interested in attending, the Early-bird is $299 until April 30, after it’s $499. Overhead Squat Variations. Grip the bar so that when it is placed overhead it is about 6-8 inches / 20cm above the top of your head. So while the wrist may be the pain site, the cause may be at the shoulder. This is because the overhead squat position (really wide grip overhead) can be a stressful position on the shoulder. JTS Strength: FIXING THE SNATCH AND OVERHEAD SQUAT POSITION (link) This rotation is also a common compensation for a forward lean of the torso. If the shoulder can’t get into a good position overhead or is shaky in that position, it can add harmful stresses to the wrist. It’s such a complex, 3-D system, in which individual muscles rely on each other for opposition and support. #1: Finding a Comfortable Grip As in, it’s not wrong. If your back and shoulders hunch forward under the bar, use a goblet squat to help you get a neutral spine. Forcing the shoulder into this position for a prolonged time will cause instability and the bar will drift away from your center of mass, resulting in a missed lift. Now compare this to the pictures above. The Shoulder-to-Overhead is an upper-body vertical pushing movement designed to get load from the shoulders to the overhead position in the most efficient way possible. Scapular Retraction & Posterior Tilt This is why it is usually the first test we use when someone walks into the gym. Internal Rotation – What are we really talking about here? The hand and wrist are allowed to settle with the wrist extended. Jerk the barbell overhead so that your elbows are in the fully locked position and your shoulder blades are contracted so that the weight overhead sits stable. Found in: 200504, Essentials, Coaching. It’s certainly an active lengthening, reach, shrug (whatever you want to call it) through the plane of the shoulder blade and humerus, but the humeral head stays flush with the front of the shoulder. #3: Knees Out To start, stand with your back against a wall and your feet about 6 to 10 inches forward. It’s a global positioning error as a way for the body to find a passive counterbalance; many times in an effort to attain a deeper squat position. In turn, it is a weaker position overhead, and can sometimes allow too much internal rotation at the shoulder in new lifters, leading to missing lifts forward or weakness resisting a miss backwards. From the overhead position perform a full squat while maintaining the weight stable overhead. To best position the athlete to overhead squat a significant amount of weight and/or volume we want a more upright torso with the overhead squat. Some people will actually start to rotate before they even begin to descend in an overhead squat. It's also a great tool to mobilize your thoracic spine, ankles, and hips, and will help you feel more comfortable at the very bottom of a squat, front squat, or snatch. This functional gem trains for efficient transfer of energy from large to small body parts – the essence of sport movement. Shoulder Positioning in the Overhead Squat Much has been said and debated in terms of shoulder positioning during the OHS. What seems to be thought of as an isolated shoulder internal rotation fault during the overhead squat, may again, be a result of global mal-positioning and stacking of the shoulder and bar. Use the guidelines in this article to augment the corrective strategies that you already use. The hand and wrist are allowed to settle with the wrist extended. The bar should be over the base of the neck with the head pushed forward slightly. “The golf ball stays on the tee”. The general procedure for the overhead squat is: Start Position. If you are able to sink into a deep squat and maintain the first five points of performance, then you can move on to looking at shoulder flexibility. The press, overhead press (abbreviated OHP) or shoulder press is a weight training exercise with many variations, typically performed while standing, in which a weight is pressed straight upwards from racking position until the arms are locked out overhead, while the legs, lower back and abs maintain balance. I can back squat deep with no discomfort so I’m guessing it’s something to do with shoulder mobility? For this reason, it is an indispensable tool for developing speed and power. However, understanding the basics of the positions is the first step; and trust me, I see just as many athletes who have ZERO mobility restrictions performing the same inefficient overhead squats, as I do those who have “tight” shoulders, hips, or ankles. Leaning forward into the press with your torso and arm angle at a similar diagonal line reduces the range of motion your shoulders have to go through in an overhead position. American lifters are often cued to … The basic bar position for the overhead squat is barbell held overhead and lined up in the imaginary “pocket” between the scapula and the back of the ears. Drills like the Bench T-Spine Mobilization would help him. You can even save 10% off with the special coupon code of  DEAN10 when you register. As you perform the three combined motions (see instructions 1-3) the forearms will move out to the sides (external rotation) as the scapular posteriorly tilts and retracts. I prescribe this drill frequently, as a teaching tool for humeral head position, and to gauge the relative rotation (internal or external) that a lifter is most comfortable with: It is important to not try to pull the band apart, but to drive the movement from the shoulder blade in coordination with the external rotation of the arms. The squat position creates a much more unstable position and forces you to engage your core even more during the entire range of motion. Many beginners will actually cramp in the lower trap/ rhomboid area as they attempt this exercise. #4: Torso Upright This meets all of our criteria for a stable shoulder position, and whether you bias internal or external rotation of the shoulder becomes context and preference specific. It also minimizes hyperextension in the lower back, taking stress out of the spine. A stable shoulder blade position on the ribcage requires proper retraction and posterior tilt to support good arm position. You may hear things like – “active shoulder”, “reach”, “shoulder blades down and back”, “show me your arm pits”, “shrug up”, “no shrug”, “if you’re upper trap fires – you’ll die,  etc. It’s all part of necessary force couples, in which muscles like the low trap, upper trap, & serratus (and likely contributions from many others) gain leverage off of one another to assist the shoulder blade into protraction, elevation, upward rotation, and posterior tilt. And no, I’m not condemning you to a PVC pipe or empty bar for the rest of your life. Do you see how he’s actively pushing up on the bar through the shoulder blades, without an unnatural forward translation of the humeral head? The overhead squat is a really difficult movement to do correctly. Rotate your lats forward (think of showing someone your armpits). #6: Thoracic Extension This torso angle is more upright than we’d typically see in other squat variations. With the bar overhead and your hands at the proper width, stand with your feet between hip- and shoulder-width apart, toes pointed out slightly. There should be minimal change between the two. The arms start out in front with the forearms parallel to the thighs – if you hold your arms out in front the elbows are bent to ninety degrees and the wrists will be inline with the knees. That's where I come in. A common overhead strategy that I tend to steer lifters away from is similar to this: While these pictures may be contrived, it’s not far from what I see by athletes on a daily basis, as a way to attain a ‘pseudo’ overhead position. Don’t try to hold the wrist in a neutral position. Note the ease with which you are able to keep your ribcage against the wall – if thoracic mobility is limited maintaining this position may be difficult. That is why, in this article, I will attempt to address some misconceptions and offer simple, practical advice for attaining a comfortable, sustainable, supportive shoulder position for the white buffalo that is the overhead squat. The most important technique note with the overhead squat that we need to discuss is the torso position. Retraction involves drawing the scapula in towards the spine. The following sequence prepares the shoulders for the overhead squat, which requires motion at the shoulder blade (scapula) and arms. #5: Neutral Lumbar Curve Mike Reinold: The Shoulder W Exercise (link) So, before you get under a loaded barbell, do this drill. The overhead squat is a really great way to engage multiple parts of your body at once. #1: Finding a Comfortable Grip for the OHS & Snatch On the flip side of the grip coin, a narrower grip will require the bar to travel further, requires a bit more mobility in the shoulder, but is stronger overhead. Good external rotation of the shoulders is important for pressing overhead and the overhead squat. It’s probably pretty easy to guess which is which. In terms of overhead position for a weightlifter – experiment with different positions and practice intently. The awesome thing about change plates is that they are different widths, so you can incrementally work yourself back to flat ground. Passive Shoulder Position for Overhead Squat & Snatch - Duration: 0:36. In every case the proper … You don’t learn a new free throw shooting stroke in Game 7 of the NBA finals. The external-rotator stretch releases the external rotators, which often ‘bind’ the shoulder blade to the arms. The overhead squat is used to strengthen the bottom position of a barbell snatch. Oftentimes what seems like poor shoulder flexibility is a lack of scapular stability (weak traps and serratus anterior) and/or poor lower body flexibility. Stabilize your midline. Now, having said all of this, I do believe there are positions that are more effective in supporting load overhead than others – but pointing to specific muscles as problematic creates confusion, considering those same muscles will be firing just as much in the positions that we desire. W/Y Wall Slide Exercise Scapular strength is also fundamental for the snatch and overhead squat. This will require that you maintain nice 'active shoulders' (when overhead squatting you should always be pushing the bar up to the ceiling). Lat Stretch. #2: Lower Body Considerations The following sequence prepares the shoulders for the overhead squat, which requires motion at the shoulder blade (scapula) and arms. You have to practice the overhead squat to master the movement, but it's damn hard. Don’t hold the bar way behind the wrist as some mistakenly grip it. Eyes should be focused straight ahead on an object straight ahead. The cue of an “active shrug” is misconstrued by translating the humeral head forward and upwards, and pushing the bar back past the plane of the body. There is no forward translation of the humeral head, and the bar is stacked over my upper back, hips, and mid foot – and remains so during the squat. If the bar is placed in the proper position in the hand, it will not place undue strain on the wrist. Use those to, dare I say it, get better at the movement and do not be in a rush to make it to your working sets. I am fully aware that there is much more to this discussion than simply telling a lifter, “Do this, not this”; and expecting magic to happen. The second picture is not simply a matter of internal rotation of the shoulder. #4: Scapular Stability & Mobility Find out about the shoulder position for an overhead squat with help from an experienced fitness professional in this free video clip. Just before the squat, take a deep breath and hold it. Don't squat the day after heavy chest or shoulder work. Quinn Henoch has a Doctorate of Physical Therapy from the University of Indianapolis. A great example is the snatch balance. The point is, we sometimes hear cues that are complete … I’ll put it simply – the upper trap HAS to fire in an overhead position. I concede endless scenarios in which mobility or motor control considerations will make these processes more complicated. Although much is made of bar position for the overhead squat, the precise position needed is not as exact as often claimed, and the right position for each individual will vary somewhat. An appropriate coaching cue for any movement is highly dependent on context. Active vs. Mike Boyle: Advances in Functional Training The goal is to maintain the PVC pipe balanced up there on your flattened palms while dropping into the squat. He is the founder of ClinicalAthlete, which is a network of healthcare providers who understand how to manage athletes. If you visualize the scapula as an upside down triangle, posterior tilt involves driving the bottom ‘pointy’ part forward so it lays flat on the ribcage. A good grip and solid shoulders are inextricably connected during the Overhead Squat. A good grip and solid shoulders are inextricably connected during the Overhead Squat. Just because you can overhead squat with the depth and overhead position that you desire doesn’t mean it will translate perfectly to your snatch. Bad posture can cause shoulder pain. Here’s an example: Can you tell in which photo I am standing and which I am squatting? The illustration on the right shows an anteriorly tilted shoulder blade that is also restricting shoulder flexion. To execute this movement, stand with your feet shoulder width apart, maintaining a wide grip with your hands on the bar overhead. A lot of athletes have a difficult time maintaining a neutral spine position during overhead squats. Mark Rippetoe makes a solid scientific case for using "active shoulders" when pressing overhead, however, the OHS is not a press and the use of this technique will limit the training of optimal loads and increase the risk of injury. Although they may look similar, it’s quite a bit more complex than the traditional squat. If you round your shoulders forward you can feel the bottom part of the shoulder blade stick out away from the ribcage (winging) as it anteriorly tilts into a bad position. #1: Weight on Heels It’s just what happens. I’d check out the overhead stability screens form the previous blog post and the overhead stability screens from 2 weeks ago. Training is a process and improvement in your positioning is not a singular event. For this reason, an ideal position for safely positioning the barbell overhead is with slight shoulder external rotation. At no point, should a lifter sacrifice shoulder position in order to attain a deeper squat position. Shoulder Position in the Overhead Squat with Miranda Oldroyd - Duration: 1:22. Olympic weightlifting coaches use the overhead squat as a teaching progression for novice athletes. The overhead squat is the catch position for the Snatch. Felt like my shoulders where gonna explode. It requires a great amount of mobility, stability and strength throughout the entire body to be performed well. You should be able to get a little lower with each rep, even if it is just a 1/2 inch each time, take it. Mobility, Stability, and Strength This is a very similar discussion as the one we had above. Lie on the ground, with your back flat against the ground your feet placed against the wall. If you need to, grab a hand towel and stretch it out between your hands. As you lower down into your overhead squat, the barbell should move over the middle of your feet. This is because the overhead squat position (really wide grip overhead) can be a stressful position on the shoulder. Coaching shoulder position in the overhead squat/snatch lift is a hotly debated topic within weightlifting circles. The graphic below shows good retraction and posterior tilt of the scapula – as the shoulder blade rests flush against the ribcage. The point is, we sometimes hear cues that are complete contradictions of each other, but yet, are being utilized for the same exercise. Dave Eubanks (CF-L4) discusses the importance of the overhead squat with a group of participants at a CrossFit Level 1 Certificate Course at CrossFit SAC on Nov. 9, 2019. Or try using a slightly wider grip. Olympic weightlifting coaches use the overhead squat as a teaching progression for novice athletes. If your back and shoulders hunch forward under the bar, use a goblet squat to help you get a neutral spine. If improving your overhead squat is your goal, this is a very beneficial teaching tool when done correctly. Twitter Mail. Note if your low-back is flat against the wall and if your neck is also able to easily maintain contact. Nothing above the belly button changes from beginning, middle, and end of the overhead squat. #7: Arms Overhead. A stable shoulder blade position on the ribcage requires proper retraction and posterior tilt to support good arm position. Forcing the shoulder into this position for a prolonged time will cause instability and the bar will drift away from your center of mass, resulting in a missed lift. In addition to using a barbell or other tool that calls for the hands to stay in a fixed relative position, you can perform the overhead squat with hands unlinked. Regardless of if you have a true ankle mobility problem, elevated heels will provide you with a counterbalance, so that you do not need to worry about falling on your ass at the same time that you’re working on maintaining a stable shoulder position. 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